Comments on: Surviving the Off Season, Part Six: Our Life’s Work https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/ An Introspective Steelers Site Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:03:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: “Knowing” the Steelers—Fan Perceptions and Misconceptions | Going Deep: https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3126 Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:03:02 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3126 […] are pulling for them when they are visibly struggling—at least those on our own team. And as Ivan so feelingly wrote on Wednesday, for many of us that sense of relationship is what makes us a fan in the first […]

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By: Bill S. https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3121 Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:21:52 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3121 I wonder how difficult it was for him to hang it up knowing how good the team will be next year.

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By: HawaiianSteeler86 https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3118 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:34:04 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3118 Ivan, What a great article! I never thought of the fact that a fan retires from a sport. Yet, I certainly have retired for the most part from MLB, the NBA and the NHL. I’m still interested in college football and basketball, though not as rabid a fan as I used to be. The NFL, to me still holds my greatest interest. I don’t think that I will ever lose my fandom for the Steelers unless as Roxy stated “Barring a repudiation of the Steeler way”.

I was “In Shock” when I first read that #83 had retired. Yet, it was the perfect way for him to leave the team. It was never about “Heath Miller” to him. He was a “Team First” player. I wish him the very best in the future. He will always be one of my favorite Steelers.

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By: Ivan https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3117 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:30:50 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3117 In reply to cold_old_steelers_fan.

Just a clarification. I am not sure how potentially racist the Heath cheer is rather than something that reflects a certain sloppiness. I have never heard it directed at Will Johnson, I don’t think it was a knock on Johnson. Rather, I think they many fans simply thought it was Heath making the catch rather than Matt or Jesse. The proof would be, as Roxanna says, the cheer goes up for all the tight ends going forward. Then we can say its a tribute.

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By: roxannafirehall https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3116 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:07:21 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3116 I doubt if I’ll ever lose my love for the Steelers. Barring a repudiation of the Steeler way, I’m with them for life.

I gave up baseball in the steroid ere. Baseball is nothing without stats and the juicers rendered stats meaningless. It certainly didn’t help that I was. Yankee fan who had endured the Steinbrenner era. Once he brought in miscreants Gary Sheffieldand Roger Clemens. What? Reggie Jackson wasn’t enough.

If I have any rooting interest now, it’s the Buccos. I can’t say I even follow basketball, except in the most casual way. I will watch a Penguins game now and then. I also like a little golf. Tiger is dead to me, but I like Phil, Bubba & Rory.

One more thought — me Heeeaaaath for anyone but Heeeaaathhhh. White, black, yellow or green, nobody’s going to get a Heeeaaaath from me unless he’s the real thing. That’s my tribute to 83.

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By: elpalito https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3115 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:14:02 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3115 Walking away…or at least taking a step back…from fanhood is natural, I think. It is normal to become attached to a team, but it is also normal to be attached to players. Most of us don’t go for a team based on the name or colors on the jersey — those things are later used to define the team. Instead we are attracted to the ‘ethos’ of the team. How that team plays can represent how we view the important aspects of a sport.
Being from the PR, I grew up rooting for individual players, usually other Ricans, that had made it to the majors. We didn’t have a team of our own, so you stick to players you can relate to. Clemente will always be our shining light in that arena. Upon moving to the States, that still was my rooting method. I liked Dale Murphy, not necessarily the Braves. Randall Cunningham, Deion Sanders, Kevin Greene were fun to watch. Jordan captured all imagination. I was loosely a Braves fan until the lock out. I left baseball behind completely until 1999 (screw Sosa and McGuire in 1998). The 1999 Reds played the kind of baseball that I felt was right. They made a futile run at a playoff spot late, came up short…but I was back in on baseball…just not with the Braves, but with the Reds who exemplified my type of ball.
I mentioned once that I had been a loose Cowboys fan (really mostly a Sanders fan) until XXX. Despite the Steelers’ loss… they played the type of football that I felt was right. And off I went.
Basketball has never held my interest and college sports in general are well into the back of my mind for the same reasons as Ivan.
It will be interesting how my fanhood will change as the names continue to turn over. The NFL, as a game, is heading in a direction that I find less interesting. I enjoy defensive football..the league doesn’t. I keep waiting for hockey to take over, but my team (CBJ) is just too terrible to jump into completely.
Perhaps I need to find some alternate games…. rugby and aussie rules football have caught my eye lately. But they’ll likely run into the same issue as top flight soccer… the best is played overseas…it’s tough to stay up late to watch games.

For now, I’ll continue to enjoy the ride with the Steelers.

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By: cold_old_steelers_fan https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3114 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:27:55 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3114 This article is a prime example of why this is such a fine blog. Thoughtful and provocative with both personal and historic perspectives that touches home with issues I have dealt with and some I hadn’t considered (Heeathhhh! but more on that is a second). What is there not to love about it.

The first team I walked away from, though it was not so deep a passion, was the Montreal Expos. Being a homer at heart, I tend to cheer for the home team and hometown heroes (even when they are elsewhere). I started cheering for the Expos because they were the only MLB team in Canada at the time. They were terrible and they were terrible for many years (or so it seemed at the time) but I cheered (because I was also raised to cheer on the underdog with whom my family identified so strongly). Then they finally fielded what seemed to be a championship level team with star player littering the lineup only to stink it up in the playoffs. When word leaked out about rampant cocaine abuse on the part of some of the star players I was devastated. I had sunk so much emotional currency into these guys only to see them piss it away. I didn’t understand and I couldn’t forgive. I cheered for the Jays when they finally won but my heart was never really in it.

The second time I walked away from a sport was when the original Winnipeg Jets left for Phoenix. It was heart wrenching and despicable to see the heart of the community ripped out and shipped to the dessert for a bunch of people who didn’t understand or appreciate hockey. People who hadn’t see the team that had gone from being the worst in league history to one of the top four in the NHL (unfortunately that put us into 3rd in our division behind the Oilers and Flames at the time). The team had started the process the year before by trading away beloved Teemu Selanne while keeping the much less popular Keith Tkachuk. A final goodbye by a crowd that blocked Portage and Main and a failed, fan fueled, fundraising campaign were the bitter aftermath of a decision that had been made by the owner and the league because the idea of increased TV revenue from a major market was more important than the people who had supported the team since it’s inception.

I still watch Jets 2.0 with my wife and I have a fairly good grasp of the team, it’s players and it’s circumstances but my heart isn’t really into it. If the team left now I wouldn’t mourn for the team though I would feel for those left behind.

I very nearly walked away from NFL fandom not so long ago. Some of you may remember. The Rooneys and the Steelers are all that is keeping me watching NFL games and following NFL events. The league officials and officiating have left a bad taste in my mouth. My heart is conflicted between my love of the game and the knowledge that the danger of head injuries are putting their lives and future of these young men on the line.

A final thought. Heeathhhh! In my mind the idea of yelling Heath’s name, when a Steelers TE caught a pass, was an homage to the player and a compliment to heath’s replacement. I never considered the colour of the player. For me it was a position related thing. I am saddened that there could be racist aspects to the act. Until now my only concern was whether a receiver first/blocking maybe style of TE deserved the accolade but now I will have to restrain myself.

I never thought of yelling “Troy” when a SS made a great play but I never thought of Troy as replaceable. Troy was unique. He seemed so far removed from other players in terms of his style of play. Heath, on the other hand, seemed like a guy who carried a lunch bucket and showed up every day to do what he did. Someone you could emulate because he was just a guy, like the rest of us while Troy seemed more like a cross between superhero and saint (this description of Troy would probably bother him which is just part of his charm as far as I am concerned). I just hope that what ever player gets #83 next can carry on the tradition Heath has begun.

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By: Rebecca https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3113 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:57:46 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3113 This wasn’t quite the article I expected when I opened the file. Very thought-provoking and a bit sobering in a way…

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By: roxannafirehall https://goingdeepsteelers.org/2016/02/24/surviving-the-off-season-part-six-our-lifes-work/#comment-3112 Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:44:57 +0000 http://goingdeepsteelers.org/?p=4779#comment-3112 Plenty of thought provoking material here. While sad at Heath’s retirement, I am in admiration of players who leave on their on terms. Whether it be Heath, Jason Worilids, Rashard Mendenhall Jim Brown or Barry Sanders, there’s something inspiring about someone who has enough sense to leave the game he leaves before he is injured or unwanted.

Most partings have at least a tinge of acrimony, of not something more intense. Even Troy and Hines had some desire to continue when the Turk came calling. Other revered Steelers played out their careers elsewhere, usually in obscurity. Two prime examples are Franco Harris and Dermontii Dawson, Hall of Famers who played too long in other cities.

I doubt I’ll ever move on. It would take an implosion of the Steeler way. The seventies team all retired and I hung in. I survived the relative mediocrity of the eighties and the parting of great Steelers like Woodson, Kirkland, Lipps. A new generation is nearly gone, but another is building momentum under Coach Tomlin, Colbert and Art II. Unless the Steeler way is lost, I’ll be there, whether we win or lose.

There’s a whole lot more in your article, Ivan. But I’ll leave it there. Great job.

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